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jbutler9  
#1 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2008 11:59:39 PM(UTC)

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I want to start this topic for a few reasons.

1. To establish a central thread to offer specific, again I say specific, Federal Salary negotions when being offered a job.

2. I have read the threads in the forum and it seems that there are a great deal of assumptions, and not actual experiences being offered for the negotiation process.

3. Because I am going for an interview soon for a Federal IT job and want to make sure that my GS positions/ Salary is the best that I can get.

If you know the process for salary negotiaton, or have successfully negotiated a higher position from teh one you were initally offered, please detail exactly what you did to achieve this.

[This message was edited by jbutler9 on September 16, 2008 at 12:03 PM.]
SubLdo  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2008 2:34:11 AM(UTC)

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Great thread topic, I hope it gets responses.

1. In my case (new to federal service, NSPS vice GS) I was called by HR after the candidate selection was made. It took almost two weeks from my "phone interview" (hiring manager was located in Hawaii) until I was contacted by HR. Note- This position had no incumbent (it was formerly a military billet) and was not previously under the GS system.

2. During the same phone call, HR asked that I send them my salary history (I am retired military with 30 years of "military income" history but only 6 months of private sector history - Note: my Military income was higher by at least $20,000 per year). I provided them my last three years of military income and my recent private sector pay stub).

3. In the same phone call they asked I submit my salary requirement with a justification statement. Note: My Dept of Navy on-line resume indicated my lowest salary requirement.

4. Two weeks passed, and HR "called" with a tentative offer that was $14,000 per year less than what I had asked for.

5. I declined the salary but said I wanted to accept the position and countered the salary with another salary figure. It has been 3 business days since we talked...still waiting on HR to respond...or not.

6. As a potential new hire into the federal goverment, I did my own research on NSPS and found that they can offer 30% above Step 1 of the equivilant GS grade for the position. Even though the postion is NSPS payband 3, I asked the person interviewing me, what the equivilant GS grade was. He said it was a GS15 position. Armed with this information (NSPS payband salary with local market supplemental and GS scales with locality pay) I fully understood what the range of salary "could" be. With a 30% variable in thier new hire salary policy it essentially means they can offer anything in the entire range step 1-10 of the targeted GS grade. In my case thier tentative offer was more than step 1 of the target grade.

7. I am also negotiating a hiring bonus because I have to move to a very high cost housing market and I will be losing a bunch of equity in the current real estate market. As a new hire to the federal government a hiring bonus can be authorized. I am unsure of a relocation bonus.

I will post the results of my negotiation. The difference in salary currently stands at $14,000. I hope to meet them half-way.

I have posted similar questions and haven't really gotten a good answer on how the tentative offer works when it comes down to salary.
yimhouse  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:28:32 AM(UTC)

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I am in the middle of considering some job options: A. Tentative offer on a GS-11 job and B. Final list for GS-12 job. I am one of the "top three" so we are discussing salary.

With either job, I will be taking a big pay cut so I am trying to negotiate salaries but no success yet. They told me that if these positions were NSPS positions then I can negotiate but with GS, I have to start at Step 1. I did ask my ex boss (GS-15) about negotiation possibilities and he told me that under GS system it is really limited. Asked about the recruiting bonus, etc. but I am not successful yet. I am coming from corporate America so everything is negotiable. I guess it is different in the federal systems.
Philbert  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, January 07, 2009 6:42:07 AM(UTC)

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Since your posts were dated in September, is it safe to assume that all three of you struck out ?

I've copied my question from a different thread:

Tentative Offer Procedures

Looking for feedback, fast.

I've noticed two posts talking about TO's being rescinded and this recent post (that doesn't have a conclusion to the story.)

I received a Tentative Offer by email for a position with the salary that correctly corresponds to Step one on the GS-Level. (I checked the locality tables).

I wrote back indicating that I would most likely accept the offer, but I wanted to briefly review some websites on benefits, etc.

However, I also brought up that the salary offer was lower than the lowest figure listed in the USAJobs posting, and asked that they "look into it."

Did I just lose this job by asking the question?

Has anyone successfully "negotiated" anything between the TO and the formal offer?

What about "recruiting incentives"? I have read everything I can find and, at least in theory, I appear to meet the requirements. When, if ever do I inquire about any of them (I am most interested in loan forgiveness.)

I also appear to eligible for service credit to my leave accrual based on my military service. When (if ever) do I ask about that?

I owe a reply by Monday the 12th.

Thanks very much.
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